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The United States by schmitzky The United States by schmitzky
In our timeline, the United States of Greater Austria were a proposal made by Aurel Popovici in the year 1906, during the reign of Emperor Franz Joseph. Obviously, it did not see the light of day.

In this timeline, the United States of Greater Austria were a proposal made by Aurel Popovic in the year 1909, shortly after Emperor Francis II assumed the throne. While its gradual implementation forced the country on the brink of civil war for two whole decades, the United States finally reachieved political stability just as the first wave of war communism hit Europe.

The darker spots are autonomous regions, where minorities (usually German ones) have special rights in regards to the entity which governs them.
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:iconmor-vilkacis:
Bosnia is a huge mess, the borders are ridiculous (and when you take a look at a physical map - impossible) and yet you don't connect the ethnic areas anyway. Serbs would make up half of the population of you "Bosnia". BTW, "Boshniaks" does not equal "Bosnians".
And why do that anyway? Divide Bosnia? The Croats and Serbs were best pals back then, the Croats renamed their national institution from "Croatian" into "Yugoslav", the intellectuals of the two nations constructed a common language, the political leader of Croatia was a Serbs demanding unification with Serbia...and then take into account how difficult (impossible) is to divide them...
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:icondoliwaq:
Too big Ost-Galizien.
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:iconmor-vilkacis:
No it's not, the border follows the ethnic border between Ukrainians and Poles.
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:icondoliwaq:
However, I understood you.
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:icondoliwaq:
Lwów(Lviv), Tarnopol(Tarnopil), Stanisławów(Iwano-Frankiwsk), Przemyśl, Drohobycz, Stryj - this cities and towns were mostly inhabited by Poles, and in large part by Jewish. Only villages are Ukrainians, and not all. This is very important question. Lviv was also known as "The most Polish of Polish cities".
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:iconmor-vilkacis:
Imagine how much land in Eastern Europe (Poland included) could the Germans democratically claim by that principle. The principle of self-determination of nations is about the land belonging to the people who live on it. And almost all of the territory apart of the big cities in Eastern Galicia was inhabited by Ukrainians. And if dozens of exclaves were created fot the Polish cities - well, a city can't live without it's surrounding. Villages can live without cities - did for ages.
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:icondoliwaq:
And this is unfair for citizens of many towns and cities in Eastern Galicia. They dont want to live in Ukrainian Eastern Galicia, which showed the citizens of Lviv when they make uprising against Ukrainian government in 1918. Students, childrens, womens fighting because they do not want to live in Ukraine, only in the Poland. Because, as you say, the cities may not be enclaves in the country, this distribution is unfair and may give rise to bloody riots.
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:iconmor-vilkacis:
If you're going to draw borders in ethnically mixed areas it is BOUND to be unfair for one of the nations. But why would Polish wishes count for more than Ukrainian? It would be more unfair if 60 000 sq. km of Ukrainian inhabited area was Polish, than 10 000 sq. km of Polish inhabited area being Ukrainian. Sorry, but if you don't agree, than you are a nationalist.
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:icondoliwaq:
Hah, I hate nationalism, so I can't be nationalist.
You know why I think Poles should have bigger territory, at the expense of Ukrainians?
Because Poles do not cooperative with Hitler to exterminate all minorities in Galicia, like Ukrainians. Because Ukrainians, not Poles, kill hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and childrens for "ethnically pure" Ukraine.


I know that it happens many years after the time of Which We write, but this is very important.
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:iconmor-vilkacis:
That's called "collective guilt", it's the same principle that resulted in the holocaust and if you support it/believe in it, than you're nationalist.

Thinking you're not a nationalist doesn't mean you're not a nationalist. Quite the contrary, very rarely do the nationalist realize they're nationalists.

There are more important things in life than the size of your country's borders, you should concentrate on them.
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